[Clipse2D]

Hello all!
I just picked up a 22 Kona limited AWD. “Downgraded from a Lincoln MKC, but the downgrade feels like an “upgrade”. Was curious about the type of gas. On my 2 previous cars, I had 2.0 turbo engines (2016 and 2019). I used premium in both, and the cars seem to have slightly better pickup. The salesman said regular will give you the same performance and mileage as premium. Would anyone here disagree with this?
Thanks and happy new year!

 

[4625]

theres a few threads about this already, i thought premieum was better for the turbo, ive used it for months. i switched back to reg for the past month and havent noticed a drastic change. all my old turbos were always premium. but id use what is recommended in the manual. thats what its tuned for

 

[2022Cyberkona]

Don't care what manual says , I will be using Petro 93 gas for now when i install JB4 will be putting the Ultra 94 .

 

[2022Cyberkona]

Hello all!
I just picked up a 22 Kona limited AWD. “Downgraded from a Lincoln MKC, but the downgrade feels like an “upgrade”. Was curious about the type of gas. On my 2 previous cars, I had 2.0 turbo engines (2016 and 2019). I used premium in both, and the cars seem to have slightly better pickup. The salesman said regular will give you the same performance and mileage as premium. Would anyone here disagree with this?
Thanks and happy new year!

Lots of stuff we are going to read on this . I think Turbo engines run better with higher octane . Bottom line if you can afford it do it . I will be running better gas myself .

 

[1fastKona]

In my experience, the kona is "tuned" for a minimum of 87 octane. Meaning, the lowest you can use is 87 octane. That doesn't mean it will perform at its best at 87, but it's drivable. As someone who actively tunes his own vehicle, i've good results with 93 to 97 octane in regards to gas mileage, and drivability, specifically meaning, better acceleration and better than stock gas mileage. Have i worked with higher rated fuel? Yes. I typically run 101 or 103 at the track, and the highest i've ever tried was 113 octane, i think. The 113 didn't run well, it wasn't a detonation issue, it was a calibration issue, as im limited to how much timing i can run.

Now someone who probably pushes the limits of the kona to the max nearly every day, i recommend 93 as a minimum, on a stock tune. Think of it as insurance for pushing your engine hard. Less chance of detonation, less change of engine damage.

If your running a tune, or your doing your own tuning, check with your tuner to what they recommend.

 

[2022Cyberkona]

In my experience, the kona is "tuned" for a minimum of 87 octane. Meaning, the lowest you can use is 87 octane. That doesn't mean it will perform at its best at 87, but it's drivable. As someone who actively tunes his own vehicle, i've good results with 93 to 97 octane in regards to gas mileage, and drivability, specifically meaning, better acceleration and better than stock gas mileage. Have i worked with higher rated fuel? Yes. I typically run 101 or 103 at the track, and the highest i've ever tried was 113 octane, i think. The 113 didn't run well, it wasn't a detonation issue, it was a calibration issue, as im limited to how much timing i can run.

Now someone who probably pushes the limits of the kona to the max nearly every day, i recommend 93 as a minimum, on a stock tune. Think of it as insurance for pushing your engine hard. Less chance of detonation, less change of engine damage.

If your running a tune, or your doing your own tuning, check with your tuner to what they recommend.

I gotcha , using Petro 93 for now when i put JB4 in ill run the Ultra 94 .

 

[4625]

Don't care what manual says , I will be using Petro 93 gas for now when i install JB4 will be putting the Ultra 94 .

**** i didnt know burger was doing konas. thats the only tuner id trust. do you know if it leaves a trace when removed?

 

[2022Cyberkona]

**** i didnt know burger was doing konas. thats the only tuner id trust. do you know if it leaves a trace when removed?

I previously had a 2021 Elantra N Line and I put the JB4 and “yes” big difference . Obviously took it out it’s the same engine in Kona . Asked just in case at Burger and all is good . I’m waiting for my 1000 km to install or even springtime . I had it on map 2 which gave car 4 more PSI . Should make a decent difference in Kona also . I was using Petro Ultra 94 gas also . Just want to make sure engine is getting best it can .oh and was told it leaves no trace if you need to get service work done .

 

[ucnchew2]

K & N does a better job at filtering then the OEM unit. Nuff said. Prolong is not Moly, or teflon, it's a micro lubricant. I see that you unaware of the product. I've used it in all my automobiles, some with over 200K and still running strong.

The Magnuseon-Moss Warranty Act doesn't allow you to do anything for the individual specifically. It simply says; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act . Think you'd better read it again.

Good luck with telling Hyundai you're not meeting or adhering to their warranty requirements. It the motor is damaged and they find out you're not sticking to the requirements of the warranty, you'll have a very hard time in getting the auto repaired under warranty. There has been a quite a few instances where warranty claims have been denied due to these very reason. You'd better do some research.

Everyone has access to Oil Lab testing, they're on the Internet by the hand full. You can get your oil test quite easily but doesn't mean anything to Hyundai and their warranty. You'll find it much easier adhering to their warranty requirements then going it alone. Rather you're right or wrong, is not the issue. If you don't follow their requirements, you run the risk of a warranty claim denial never-the-less.

In truth you don't know if you or they would win or not in court. You can't read the future, let alone acquire the legal backing Hyundai is able to muster and put forth. The burden of proof is solely on you alone, not Hyundai. You're just wishful thinking and that can get you into all sorts of trouble.

I've already checked with Hyundai regarding the K & N and they are fine with it. It's the only actual authorized filter upgrade approved across the majority of manufacturer specifications. You need to do some research on the K & N and it's actual specifications. I can see you haven't.

One of the main reasons people select the Hyundai is; their best in the country warranty and price point. They are a solid built auto with a great reputation for longevity.

Do as you wish but you alone will suffer the consequences of your actions solely.😉

Which K&N part# washable engine air filter for my 2022 Kona N-Line AWD? And where to buy, please? I can't find it.

 

[4625]

Which K&N part# washable engine air filter for my 2022 Kona N-Line AWD? And where to buy, please? I can't find it.

go to the k and n website and put your info in

 

[Dingus]

2022 N Line - was getting 25.2 MPG average on 87. Since I switched to 92 (WA State) I'm averaging 28.5 through 3 full tanks. Seems worth the extra 30 cents a gallon to me. Butt dyno says it pulls a little harder too but that could be placebo.

 

[4625]

2022 N Line - was getting 25.2 MPG average on 87. Since I switched to 92 (WA State) I'm averaging 28.5 through 3 full tanks. Seems worth the extra 30 cents a gallon to me. Butt dyno says it pulls a little harder too but that could be placebo.

i thought it was but dyno too, but i put in standard for a while and thought there was something wrong with my car cuz the extra peppiness was gone im all for 91 here

 

[ucnchew]

Has your scan gauge shown any knock detection? if not, the KONA ECU programming does not take advantage of premium fuel..
So you won’t see any benefits. DI has the ability to run high boost levels safely without retarding timing or causing detonation..

Is the Kona 1.6 L turbo engine designed to function better with 10% ethanol gas than with no ethanol gas? Because of how it burns.

 

[Bad~Papa]

Is the Kona 1.6 L turbo engine designed to function better with 10% ethanol gas than with no ethanol gas? Because of how it burns.

the engine takes into account the possibility of 10% ethanol mix, according to the manual. We might be getting a 15% mix this summer because of politicians, not engineers. you get less mpg with the added corn mix. Ethanol is also more corrosive, again .. politicians making decisions.
The O2 sensors , knock sensors, EGT sensor , ECU programming would all adjust to compensate within the programming limits if needed.
Most fuel stations say “up to” 10% ethanol , so who knows what we are using.. I can’t say I’ve ever noticed a difference from tank to tank Because of ethanol amount. I usually see the lowest mileage in the summer when they use oxygenated fuels, and lots of air conditioning..

 

[4625]

well ive been trying regular fuelfor a few weeks, vs premium this car is completely different , ill try regular a few more times to see if it needs to readjust since ive always ran premium. on premium it pulls alot harder so ill see if it needs to adjust

 

[JCtx]

In order for the engine to take advantage of premium fuel, the ECU has to have the ability to advance timing; otherwise, you'd be wasting your money not only in the extra 20 to 70 cents per gallon, but also in mileage, since premium fuel has less energy content than regular (a fact). The way to know if your engine would benefit from premium is to check if premium is recommended. If not, like on my new Santa Fe Calligraphy with the 2.5T (which I was surprised about), then stick to regular always. I'm buying a Kona N for my wife this week, and that one recommends premium on the 2.0T, so it'd benefit from it, but since it won't be driven hard to justify premium, no sense in wasting money on that for maybe 20 more HP that would never get used, so it'll also get regular, at least most of the time.

 

[4625]

lol this guy, you should google if using regular in a premium car voids warranty, alot of car warranties do get voided. maybe you shouldve saved money since she not going to use the performance of the kona n and get a limited awd and use regular since you dont really know how the car works or what the ecu does on our cars

 

[Mainia1]

I previously had a 2021 Elantra N Line and I put the JB4 and “yes” big difference . Obviously took it out it’s the same engine in Kona . Asked just in case at Burger and all is good . I’m waiting for my 1000 km to install or even springtime . I had it on map 2 which gave car 4 more PSI . Should make a decent difference in Kona also . I was using Petro Ultra 94 gas also . Just want to make sure engine is getting best it can .oh and was told it leaves no trace if you need to get service work done .

Did your Elantra N-line have the 8 injector 1.6T motor in it, like your 2022 Kona does?

Also, the local garage won't see you have a piggyback, but if the local shop sends data to Hyundai to have an enginner look at data for say a drivability issue or some other issue, they will see you have a piggyback unless you drive the car with the OEM tune for an undetermined time to write over the data. Nothing to worry about that would be a very rare event. II remember seeing an Audi guy who blow a rear diff and Audi wanted data and they caught he had a piggyback on and denied the rear diff warranty. That still never stopped me thought, you have to pay to play. Just saying the piggyback use is not a guaranty of not being seen.

 

[JCtx]

lol this guy, you should google if using regular in a premium car voids warranty

WHAT? You have no freaking idea what you're talking about. And you don't even own an N. First of all, the manual on the Kona N clearly says premium fuel is RECOMMENDED for maximum performance. But regular grade is all you need. And I'm going to buy my wife what she wants, not what you say. You don't have to drive like a maniac to enjoy a sporty car. It's clear you have absolutely nothing to contribute for me, so I'm ignoring you right after posting this.

 

[4625]

WHAT? You have no freaking idea what you're talking about. And you don't even own an N. First of all, the manual on the Kona N clearly says premium fuel is RECOMMENDED for maximum performance. But regular grade is all you need. And I'm going to buy my wife what she wants, not what you say. You don't have to drive like a maniac to enjoy a sporty car. It's clear you have absolutely nothing to contribute for me, so I'm ignoring you right after posting this.

lol your breaking my heart smalls, who **** in your cheerios, i thought premium was required, not recommended, i didnt tell you what to do, its a discussion, and i can give my opinion whether you like it or not. also the limited awd is very sporty