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New 2024 Kona 1.6L Limited Battery Parasitic/Dark Drain Mystery

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Greetings,
As far as Corporate goes, don't hold your breath. I had a 2021 Kona that, out of the blue, rev'd up and then stopped dead in its tracks in traffic. Long story short...spent over 6 months between the dealer and Corporate trying to get them to do something. Since it did not produce a 'code', they would not do anything. I had a video from my dashcam showing exactly what happened. I gave up and traded it in for a 2024 Kona Limited.

Now, I have this event last night with the cabin fan mysteriously coming on much later after being parked. My dashcam captured the event. Here we go again. I'll be talking to my dealership next week. Stay tuned...:(
Gary
I have a 2024 Kona Limited AWD and love it. The AC blower is SUPPOSED to do that. Read the manual!!!
It explains it and why. It’s. actually a good idea.
You can always go into Settings and turn it off. Personally, I like the feature and it WILL NOT drain the battery.
Do people ever bother to read the manual? I found out so much stuff I never realized the car would do.
 
I am having the same problem with my 2024 Limited. Have found the cabin fan running at least six times. The cooling fan on the motor twice. One time I didn't catch it and had a dead battery in the morning. I have gotten into a habit of checking the car every night before bedtime to make sure one of the fans isn't running. Went shopping yesterday at Home Depot and was away from the car for about forty five minutes. Got back to the car and the cabin fan was running. Emailed Hyundai the same day and someone called me within thirty minutes. The call was a total waste of time because they want me to take the car back to the dealer. The fan coming on is a random thing and not predictable. The car could sit at the dealership for two months without the fan coming on. This time on the call there was a hint of them maybe buying the car back. The fact is that I really like the car and no one else makes a small car with all the options that a Limited has. Hyundai please wake up and at least acknowledge the problem and fix it. Going to the dealership is a waste of time because they will tell you that the problem can't be duplicated. If they can't duplicate it then it doesn't exist. Next time it happens I am going to waste my time and the dealerships time on a senseless attempt to get something done.
See my reply above. Apparently Hyundai techs don’t read the manual either.
Under specific conditions the fan is designed to run after the car is shut off and will never run for more than 30 minutes.
At the same time, the AC switches from recirculating mode if on to outside air mode and runs the fan on a lower speed to eliminate moisture can can cause objectionable smells. It not random. It’s a very cool design feature. Once you understand the feature you’ll thank Hyundai.
Have you tried the Auto Defrost feature too? Something else nobody knows about. Very cool feature.
 
Have you read about insurance dongles draining the battery
That’ll do it!!! Pin 4/5 on the OBD II connector are Chassis and Signal ground respectively. Pin 16 is B+ and hot all the time.
plugging a dongle on requires power so there you have it. Dead batteries. Ditch the dongles. OBD II WAS NOT DESIGNED to have this crap plugged into it.
 
I am having the same problem with my 2024 Limited. Have found the cabin fan running at least six times. The cooling fan on the motor twice. One time I didn't catch it and had a dead battery in the morning. I have gotten into a habit of checking the car every night before bedtime to make sure one of the fans isn't running. Went shopping yesterday at Home Depot and was away from the car for about forty five minutes. Got back to the car and the cabin fan was running. Emailed Hyundai the same day and someone called me within thirty minutes. The call was a total waste of time because they want me to take the car back to the dealer. The fan coming on is a random thing and not predictable. The car could sit at the dealership for two months without the fan coming on. This time on the call there was a hint of them maybe buying the car back. The fact is that I really like the car and no one else makes a small car with all the options that a Limited has. Hyundai please wake up and at least acknowledge the problem and fix it. Going to the dealership is a waste of time because they will tell you that the problem can't be duplicated. If they can't duplicate it then it doesn't exist. Next time it happens I am going to waste my time and the dealerships time on a senseless attempt to get something done.
It’s not a problem. Quit wasting your time and read the manual. It’s a feature called Auto Dry.
Of course they’ll never duplicate it. It runs under very specific conditions. And not for long.
It can sit until you know what freezes over and never run until those conditions are met.
if you don’t like it open the book and it tells you how to disable it as well as auto defrost, another cool feature.
 
Greetings,
I just found this on another Hyundai Forum. This might answer some of our questions why the fan turns on after the car has been turned off. I searched the owners manual with 'auto-dry' and verified that it is in the manual. Who knew????
So for me, I am now less worried about my fan coming on after the car was parked. The fan did turn on about 30 minutes after it had been parked in the garage. Hope this solves some issues. But probably not the dead battery problems.


Air Conditioner Auto-Dry
The Air conditioner auto-drying feature
dries the moisture in the air conditioner
and reduces air conditioner odor. The
blower motor automatically operates
after 30 minutes the vehicle is turned off.
The Air conditioner auto-drying feature
can be turned on and off by pressing the
Ų button, and then selecting Vehicle

Climate > Climate Features > Air

Conditioner Auto-Dry.
When the Air conditioner auto-drying
feature is activated, the air conditioner
sets the fan speed to the third level,
selects outside (fresh) position, and
directs the air flow to the face.
Operating conditions
The Air conditioner auto-drying feature
operates under the following conditions:
• The vehicle is turned off after operating
the air conditioner for a certain period.
• The battery level is sufficient and the
outside temperature is above a certain
level

Gary
Great to see someone else actually reads the manual. I learned so much from reading.
my 2024 Kona Limited AWD so far is a great little car!! Love it.
 
I came out to the garage once and found that the fan was still going with the engine turned off...So I decided to turn off the "AC Auto Drying Feature" a while ago which keeps the fan going after the engine is turned off and the fan (with engine turned off) hasn't turned on since then...Since I live in So Arizona where the air is so dry here to begin with, there's almost no moisture in the air to condense anyways! I think this feature may very well have contributed to the drained batteries reported by others!
I have it set to “On” 2024 Kona Limited. We live in a high humidity area so that fan runs periodically.
never had a dead battery. If it makes you feel more comfortable, leave it off. Kudos to Hyundai for making selectable features.
 
I have Auto Dry turned On in my 2024 Kona Limited. Even if it does run it’s only the cabin fan on low speed and never more than 30 minutes. Usually less. It will time out at 30 minutes maximum.
I don’t have issues.
I just returned home from a trip and after 2 weeks sitting in my garage the Kona started right up.
I like the Smart Defrost feature too.
The cabin fan running is a feature on the Kona Limited. In the settings on the main menu go to setup, vehicle, climate and finally automatic venilation. There are two settings in automatic venilation. Automatic dehumidify and scheduled ventilation. The automatic venilation is set to on in my car. The other option scheduled venilation is set to off. Went on a road trip Tuesday and after I got home I went to the garage about 20 minutes later and the cabin fan was running. It ran for about 30 minutes and shut off by itself. Back to the drawing board on the battery draw. I have found the cooling fan on the motor running twice but not recently. Thanks to TJ Moritz for the education on the manual and fan. Hyundai wants me to take the car back to the dealer again and I have an appointment on June 18th. The car isn't holding any codes so I am not really confident that they will find anything. Really like the car and it got 36mpg out on the road. Hopefully Hyundai will come out with a fix.
i haven’t had any dead battery issues even after sitting in my garage for 2 weeks while we were on vacation. We did notice the fuel economy is considerably better than what’s listed on the Monroney sticker. I’m very happy about that. All in all it seems like a very solid and quiet well built car. And we get lots of comments on the style and people asking if it’s an EV. LOL Enjoy your ride. We sure do.
 
I have 2k on mine and I agree with you. At least with the tender, I can keep it charged until I decide what I want to do. If anyone is thinking of using a Tender, the Battery in the Kona is 12v AGM setting.
I’m wondering if they didn’t just get a bad batch of batteries. Myself and my friend both have 2024 Kona Limited AWD and no issues. I’m an ASE certified auto tech specializing in electrical and network systems.
I’ve gone as far as putting a digital storage graphing ammeter on mine to check for draw. While I agree there is a small draw after you shut the car off it stops after 20-30 minutes as the modules on the CAN networks shut down. It’s no different than my 2023 Lincoln Nautilus or my 2014 Lincoln MKS. You can see the current draw change as the modules systematically shut down. Parasitic draw is about 60 milliamps which is typical of any car.
 
Add me to the list of people who are having this issue. My Kona was bought in January and I had my first experience with this problem today. I had noticed the fans coming on after the car was shut off before but thought it was a 'feature'. I'll be taking it to the dealer tomorrow and plan on giving the tech all the links to these threads about this problem. Not sure if they can do much about it, but at least they'll know where to start.
The Cabin fan coming on IS a feature called Auto Dry. If you don’t like it, read the manual. It’s a setting you can turn on or off. But… I have it ON on our 2024 Kona Limited and don’t have a battery issue.
 
No offense but the tech's explanation of the battery draw sounds like a cop out. If that were the case all the Kona's would have dead batteries. I would think that the cameras and sensors remain powered off until you start the car. At this point I don't think that Hyundai has any clue about what is causing the problem. Personally I don't think anyone in their right mind would build a car with that kind of battery drain built in. Good luck with your car. If that tech told the trainees what he told you then that is what is going to be stuck in their mind. If they happen to service a car with the dead battery problem they will go to that explanation and no further.
I’d be real curious to see the build dates of all these vehicles that are having this problem. I’m sure Hyundai has that information somewhere. The reason I’m asking is not every car does it. I’m wondering if they didn’t just get a bad batch of batteries. By looking at the build date and approximate mileage on these failures, we could determine and narrow it down a little bit more. I realize from the time the dealer orders the car until the time it’s delivered to their dealership it can take approximately four months because these cars come from South Korea.
 
Has anyone used a 12 volt battery tender plugged into the cigarette lighter in order to slow charge the battery
That’s not a cigarette lighter. It’s a 12v power port and IMSM, it’s only hot when the car is on accessories or running. So a switched power port will not work if you plug a tender in it.
my Dodge and Ford each have 2 ports. One switched and one non switched meaning the non switched is active all the time. Those are the ports I use for my tender. With the engine running, get a 12v test light or volt meter and check for power on your Hyundai port. Should have 12v.
now shut the car off and open the drivers door. If you lose 12v than the port is switched and a tender won’t work in that case. You’d have to go directly to the battery.
Hope this explains it.
 
I agree...In my experience I've found these service techs knew far less about the problems and their causes than I did when it came to fixing problems!
I sure agree. Seems like if the car doesn't set a code they have no clue what to do. I’m a Certified tech myself with 56 years experience. We’ve fixed tons of cars from other shops and even dealerships. Just because it won’t throw a code doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem. Get these techs trained up. I also trained auto diagnostics for a major tool and equipment manufacturer for 25 years.
Sad state of affairs.
 
As I was posting earlier this morning my Hyundai's battery was dying. Went to the garage to go shopping. Hit the starter button and nothing. There was enough juice left in the battery to illuminate the display. A message flashed on the display that said there was a parasitic outside source discharging the battery. Had to leave for about 45 minutes and by the time I got home the battery was toast. I checked the battery with my volt meter when it happened and you could actually see the voltage falling. I made a short film clip of it. Called roadside assistance. Triple A came out and jumped it and I let the car run for about 30 minutes and shut it off. Put my battery charger on the battery and it wont take a charge. Charged it for about four hours and it only shows a 25% charge. Never saw a battery discharge that fast without something running on the car. There was nothing running and like I said before you could actually see the voltage falling with a meter. What ever happened it may have killed the battery for good. Will know in a couple of hours. Put my other battery charger on it to see what happens. Probably be calling road side assistance again in the morning. Concerning the message that was on my display what could be an outside source on the car? Thought it was a self contained system. I have been watching the car like a hawk to try and catch something running on the car but was a little too late. I am completely baffled.
I’d bet the battery is an issue. Possible internal short. Hyundai uses AGM batteries in the Kona and god knows who makes them. These are not like the typical flooded lead acid batteries were used for years.
running the car for 30 minutes probably did little good. Kona uses a “smart” charging system designed to maintain charge rather than charge a dead or low battery. A good half hour run down the interstate will help to charge it. Not idle speed.
 
Well, that puts the lock door with key fob and keep keys in shielded box theory down the drain. I keep mine on a battery tender, and I think it's the only way to avoid a dead battery as of now. I think a new Subaru Forrester is in my future if Hyundai doesn't man up to the problem.
Do a little research on Subaru dead battery issues. My daughter is in on the class action suit for a battery issue on her 2021 that started 2 years ago. Subaru keeps the car and says they can’t find a thing. They put a new battery in and it was okay for 10 months. Now same old same old.
She’s starting to regret trading her 93,000 2015 Ford Fusion which gave her no trouble. Being an ASE certified tech myself and in the auto repair business for 58 years, you better believe I’d hear from her immediately if she has a problem.
I’m wondering if Hyundai didn’t just get a bad batch of batteries.
We’ve had no issues with our 2024 Kona Limited and we do have AC drying turned on on both of our profiles.
 
Welcome to the club. I brought mine in a couple of weeks ago to have a software patch done which addresses the keyboard screen staying on when shutting the car off draining the battery. I don't think this will do much to help our problem but who knows. My dealer keeps telling me this is normal for the battery to drain and to get a battery tender or jump pack. I turn everything off before leaving the car and lock it using key fob, I also put keep fob in metal box to prevent communication with car. I also will remotely start the car and let it idle for 15 minutes if it has not been used more than three day. Since doing all these things going on 10 months now, I have not had any issues. Don't know if doing all these things is working, but cars are way too expensive right now to start looking for a new one. Hyundai is useless and will not be of any help, we are on our own.
We just came back from a 3 week trip and our 2024 Kona Limited AWD sat in the garage the whole 3 weeks.
Jumped in and it started right up no problem. Many times it sits 4-5 days without being used as it it our second car. We like it a lot.
 
I didn't have the update done and don't take special measures to try and prevent battery drain and my battery doesn't drain after sitting for long periods. I think it must be model related. Glad you got your problem licked.
I still say we should get a "Battery discharge notification" long before the battery is dead. The notification setting is in the Bluelink app but it obviously doesn't work, since so many people find their Kona has a dead battery.
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I set my notification up using the Bluelink app on my iPhone. My screen looks different. I can choose 3 methods. Email, Text or App
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Oh, I thought you posted before about your battery going dead, must be thinking of someone else. I know phone type doesn't matter, just the info is presented differently to the user. My battery died 3 times, notification was on, never got any indication that it was going dead, neither did the many other that have had dead battery issues. If I had received the notification, I could have started the car before the battery was completely dead. I get other notifications...too.
Yes no battery issues for me. Must have been someone else. I guess we’ll have to keep an eye on other people’s comments.
 
I had the same problem. I am in the middle of a lemon lawsuit. Going on 6 months.
Are you sure the dealer didn’t put a tracker on it? A lot do that if the car is financed or leased. A few years ago we had a Toyota Avalon in the shop after having back to the dealer many times for a dead battery. Guess what we found wired in BEHIND the OBD II connector, Pin 16, Battery positive hot at all times, and Pin 4 Chassis ground.
Yup. A tracker. Instead of plugging it into the OBD two connector they put it behind the connector. The average person would never even think to look there. Pretty darn sneaky. We neutered the thing and that was the end of the dead battery problems.