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The Kona SEL AWD was tossed into a trail trek competition between several crossovers recently. It didn't come in first place or anything, but the reviewer thought it would be the worst (all of the rest were $30k+ btw). After the test, he had changed his tune and was calling it a scrappy climber. That was with the stock low profile tires too.

 

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Yeah, they didn't really explain how they arrived at their scores.

Another reviewer from the same test that was impressed:

 

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Yeah, they didn't really explain how they arrived at their scores.

Another reviewer from the same test that was impressed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ULQ8OtAaQs
Most never do explain their methodology. However, it's good to see they attempted to make a fair comparison.:smile: Most auto bloggers are paid by someone, they don't do it for free, so you have to take there reviews with a grain of salt. Plus they used the 2.0L and not the Ultimate 1.6T AWD.

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While the Kona certainly wasn't designed for full blown off roading, I think a lot of people have been surprised with its trailing potential. The guys over at TFL took it to one of there most severe courses, and were pretty surprised with how well it faired.
 

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The biggest point is throwing all these in with a Jeep??. Not the same class and by far a Cherokee is going to make most inclines and grades of roads, but failure is going to happen when you throw all these in with street tires. I have watched so many youtube videos and all use the tires designed for the street , honestly how many owners except a Jeep will ever take their vehicle off road , very few and thus up inclines of 20% or more with switch backs , soft dirt or rocks.

Then you have a few testers who then claim a Forester is bad off road in snow, for this he never used the X mode invalidating the test.

Like myself and JR stated , these tests should be taken lightly and again this and the other vehicles except the Jeep should be taken on these types of terrain.
 

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I don't believe a dct would be very good in off road conditions. Hyundai probably chose to send the 6 speed auto for that reason. The 1.6t and dct are superior for acceleration on the street, but that transmission was not designed to handle off road situations.
 

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Actually, a manual transmission is one of the best for off-road and I personally believe the DCT would shine as well IMHO.

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Actually, a manual transmission is one of the best for off-road and I personally believe the DCT would shine as well IMHO.

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The TFL video was done with the DCT and they overheated it. I will note that they had one of their least experienced reviewers doing that review; maybe one of the sites main reviewers could have done better. .
 

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I'll have to disagree with you regarding his qualifications. :smile:

He doesn't know how to utilize the DCT, this is why he overheated the clutches. He's a blogger as I said before, not a test driver. He doesn't know how to take specific corners on the high side as an experienced off-roader would 6:15 into the video. Sometimes the safest route is the longer one thru. He doesn't back up and plan another route thru the obstacles, instead he attempts to force it thru a particular route again and again. You look for the best route thru. You just don't muscle thru, as it takes planning and finesse, which is part of the fun doing recreational off-roading. It shows his inexperience in off-roading. You might be able to do it with a Jeep Wrangler but you aren't with the Kona AWD or any similar crossover.

However, he's testing it as he would attempt to do so with a Jeep Wrangler, which is designed more for rougher off-road use then the Kona was designed and engineered to do.

You can't compare apples and oranges. It's a crossover, primarily designed for on road use and certainly not designed to do the routes he chose to do. I can see several different paths thru the obstacles he over heated the DCT in. If the route you choose isn't working, you back up, pause and plan a different one. Not a fair assessment of it's capabilities IMHO.:smile:

Put it into the hand of an experienced off- roader and see what happens.:wink:
 

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I think you mis-read my post, assuming that is what you were replying to. As I said, the guy who tried to get the DCT Kona up their off-road test hill for TFL is one of their least experienced reviewers. He's the son of the site founder. In fact, the other long-time reviewer recently got the new Santa Fe up the same course with few issues, though he did have to choose the easiest route in places to do it. I haven't been able to find a clear statement about what the new Santa Fe's ground clearance is, but it did seem to me that the Kona (in experienced hands) would likely be able to achieve the same results.
 

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Agreed.

I did miss what you said, my bad! I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I'll attempt to read better in future. I've got a Ten's device going on my back right now and I think it may have short circuited my brain!:grin: Happy Labor Day!:smile:

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The Kona SEL AWD was tossed into a trail trek competition between several crossovers recently. It didn't come in first place or anything, but the reviewer thought it would be the worst (all of the rest were $30k+ btw). After the test, he had changed his tune and was calling it a scrappy climber. That was with the stock low profile tires too.

Just in case anyone is wondering still. The Kona SEL does great off road. 34k miles, and lots of gravel, and very tough roads. A few ground scrapes, and finally had to get new tires. Get the Falken Wildpeak tires for it! Looks like a wolf in sheep's clothing!
 

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This afternoon(13:30) it started Snowing in NJ. Got off work about 17:00. Drove home mostly in AWD. The one road I don't normally use because of steep hill, Had to use it tonight. Locked in the 4WD.. Went up it around 30 mph. Drove about 1/4 Mile or so total in 4WD. Couple inches of snow on untreated roads. No issues. 1st time I used the 4WD in this car. At least I know it works like its supposed to.
 

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This afternoon(13:30) it started Snowing in NJ. Got off work about 17:00. Drove home mostly in AWD. The one road I don't normally use because of steep hill, Had to use it tonight. Locked in the 4WD.. Went up it around 30 mph. Drove about 1/4 Mile or so total in 4WD. Couple inches of snow on untreated roads. No issues. 1st time I used the 4WD in this car. At least I know it works like its supposed to.
That's good to know, I'm in NY and we are getting hit bad now also.
 

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I'm east of Trenton. It's a Sleet/Snow Mix now. Where the 4-6" and 6-10" Band edges meet.
 

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I live in the northern Rockies and this will be my third winter with the Kona. I do run snow tires but its been a great winter car. I got an old 4wd truck this year that I use occasionally and that is nowhere near as good as the Kona on slick road surfaces.
 

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I owned Tucsons before. I know from personal experience, They can handle 9" Snow without problem. Kona? This is the First Snow Storm since I got it last year. AWD/4WD is Great. But you still need Ground Clearance or you get stuck. Mine is the SE model. 16" Hankook Tires.
 

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I owned Tucsons before. I know from personal experience, They can handle 9" Snow without problem. Kona? This is the First Snow Storm since I got it last year. AWD/4WD is Great. But you still need Ground Clearance or you get stuck. Mine is the SE model. 16" Hankook Tires.
The Tucson and Kona have similar ground clearance so it shouldn't be much different that way, though the Tucson is heavier. That said, I generally agree with your statement but I run snow tires on my Kona for added winter performance. It's at least as good in heavy snow as my previous vehicle, a Jeep with higher ground clearance but which I never put snow tires on, just all season M+S rated tires.
 
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