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I have been investigating the failures for a few months now. Just from my FB Kona group, I have 25 Konas that needed replacement engines, from 1k miles to 30k. Mostly 2020 models have been affected, but I also know of a handful of 19's, and now 1 2021 has fallen. I have been in contact with Hyundai trying to get answers, and I've been collecting info on the failures I know of. Like you said, eventually (I see it happening sooner rather than later) a class action lawsuit will be filed, and with the launch of the Kona N, and the 2nd gen 2021 models, this will be devastating to Kona sales.
got 2020 with 5,600 miles with engine failure. dealer is replaceing engine
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.
I am beginning what you have done. I have just finished my 2nd oil consumption test. If it burns oil again, which it will, they will replace the engine. Your post concerns me greatly. And I am afraid, if I do want to sell this car, the VIN search will show a new engine installed at 8000 miles. So stupid ! Lemon laws say we have to let the manufacturer makes repairs. I agree. Ridiculous ! I feel helpless
 

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I am beginning what you have done. I have just finished my 2nd oil consumption test. If it burns oil again, which it will, they will replace the engine. Your post concerns me greatly. And I am afraid, if I do want to sell this car, the VIN search will show a new engine installed at 8000 miles. So stupid ! Lemon laws say we have to let the manufacturer makes repairs. I agree. Ridiculous ! I feel helpless
You have a 100,000 warranty, Hyundai gives you another late model car to drive while you are waiting. Even if it happens twice you won't be without a late model car. Drive the Kona till it is paid off or at least 3-4 years so you won't take a hit then if you sell right when it gets fixed you will lose your shirt. Enjoy the car move on knowing Hyundai will always give you a free car while they fix it.
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.
Just read this evening that the 2.0 is subject to recall for potential fire hazard. Engine replacement is remedy. If you've not had that info from your dealer, you should contact them.
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.
I agree ~ ridiculous. After my first oil consumption test, I filed a complaint with Hyundai Corporate. I’m about 100 miles into a new engine. So far, it’s running well but I am definitely afraid of this car. I did receive notification that Hyundai is offering to “repurchase” my 2020 Kona. I am now waiting for the offer letter. Even though I love my Kona, when it is running well, I am going to buy something else.
 

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Just read this evening that the 2.0 is subject to recall for potential fire hazard. Engine replacement is remedy. If you've not had that info from your dealer, you should contact them.
Just had my 2.0 engine replaced in 2020 Kona, They also changed the weight of the oil to 5w30. My neighbor is a service manager for dodge and said they do the same thing with changing the oil to a heavier weight and that seems to fix the problems. The 0 weight oil they put in there is like water so they can meet the fucking government MPG figures
 

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So you have a 1.6 Turbo? What exactly happened to each engine? It is VERY rare a 1.6T has catastrophic engine failures. The 1.6T is one of Hyundai's best motors.
I do indeed know what I purchased and it is in fact a 1,6L engine. I have scoring happening on both the old and newly replaced engine. Causing the car to jolt and shake. They replaced the engine and Sent me away with a new engine and the engine light still on. they blamed the engine light being on as result of my car needing a new catalytic converter. To then tell me two weeks later they need to give me a second engine replacement. Doesn’t seem like the best motor to me..
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It is a good motor, it is the stupid dealers AND Hyundai that roll the dice like on your car. First off, you have scored up "galled" piston skirts, that metal goes all though the motor. Hyundai in some cases wants to reuse the cylinder head. Even if a machine shop cleans the head there is a chance some stuck metal slurry will break lose that the machine shop did not get cleaned out and take the new motor out. Make sure when you get your second motor you get a "long block" (means with new cylinder head) vs a "short block" without cylinder head/they reuse yours. DEMAND a long block. Get it in writing that you will be getting a long block.

OH I almost forgot, you will need a NEW turbo AND NEW turbo oil lines and a NEW turbo drain tube. Make sure you are getting all. Did you get a new turbo, turbo oil lines, and turbo drain tube last new motor??? If not, the crap from your first tanked motor in the turbo took out your new engine.
 

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It is a good motor, it is the stupid dealers AND Hyundai that roll the dies like on your car. First off, you have scored up "galled" piston skirts, that metal goes all though the motor. Hyundai in some cases wants to reuse the cylinder head. Even if a machine shop cleans the head there is a chance some stuck metal slurry will break lose that the machine shop did not get cleaned out and take the new motor out. Make sure when you get your second motor you get a "long block" (means with new cylinder head) vs a "short block" without cylinder head/they reuse yours. DEMAND a long block. Get it in writing that you will be getting a long block.

OH I almost forgot, you will need a NEW turbo AND NEW turbo oil lines and a NEW turbo drain tube. Make sure you are getting all. Did you get a new turbo, turbo oil lines, and turbo drain tube last new motor??? If not, the crap from your first tanked motor in the turbo took out your new engine.
thank you so much I appreciate the knowledge. They never gave me any info on paper regarding my new engine or anything to do with a new turbo or the lines, or drain tube! I even asked for paperwork and theysaid they don’t normally do that so refused.
 

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I bought my 2020 Kona new from a dealership. My engine started clicking within a few months. Per dealer it was because I needed an oil change. (At 1500 miles…?) Clicking again….per dealer engine cold?…Cat started shutting off as I was driving saying no key fob present….per dealer …replace fob batteries….car stopped again as I driving…total of 6 times…now I have complete engine failure…they want to replace my engine..I said give me a check for the amount I paid. I am processing a claim through Hyundai Corporate under manufacture warranty. It was so frightening for me …I do not want to risk my safety again. Class action suit coming…I’m sure of it.
 

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I feel you, Freedom. This is scary and unsafe. I do have to admit Hyundai, while slow as molasses, takes care of you. They offered to repurchase my car after replacing the engine. After 4 long stays at the dealer for oil consumption tests and ultimately the engine replacement, they always had a loaner car for me.

I don’t want this anymore. Even though it’s running very well, I have to admit I feel very insecure driving it. Especially going on a long road trip. You have to be persistent and continue to call and follow up with them otherwise they will take longer. But with them offering to repurchase the autos, they ask for papers to be signed which prohibit you from filing any law suits. They took care of the issue, as far as I am concerned; they are reimbursing me my down payment as well as all payments I’ve made to date on the car. The extended warranty, gap insurance and sales tax I need to obtain through the dealership which will take even longer. If I opt to keep the car, they’ve offered me $5000. You can then turn around and sell it to a Carvana if you want. I wish you the best and a speedy remedy.
 

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thank you so much I appreciate the knowledge. They never gave me any info on paper regarding my new engine or anything to do with a new turbo or the lines, or drain tube! I even asked for paperwork and they said they don’t normally do that so refused.
If I were you, I would have an attorney write a letter to the Service Manager as a Hyundai representative and state you want

1) New long block with a virgin cylinder head.
2) New turbo,
3)New turbo oil lines.
4) New turbo drain tube
5)New oil cooler

ALL of ghich has a slurry of un-cleanable metal flakes/slurry smashed into corners that won't come out in the cleaning process, and will inevitably will let loss with multiple heat cycles.

If you don't want to do that ASAP get a hold of the service manager and request that in a hand given letter and get a signed conformation signature of a copy. Let him state with that signature he received it, no need for him to agree now on getting that for you. Then state you want to talk to the district manager and have a letter/copy for him ready. Remember to state thisi is your SECOND NEW rebuilt motor going in because they did not install the 1st new rebuilt correctly as clearly they gave you no paper work what was done.

They did that for a reason, because many people INCLUDING ME received paperwork what was done on my wife's 2013 Hyundai Elantra GT 1.8 liter that galled up the pistons at 14,000 miles. I had complete paperwork on all the parts put in the car. It was not a turbo, so I did not need all the new CLEAN parts a blown up turbo motor needs. Just cleaning then does not fix them. It is known in the engine building world a motor with a slurry of aluminum and steel junk going through the engine renders those parts a very high risk for reuse even if cleaned and tanked. Your 2nd rebuild is a classic case of what can happen, ANOTHER junked motor.
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.
Yes oil consumption test top end clean 10000 miles first visit I’m sitting here waiting for the results of my 6 th visit @16000 miles . They need to step up to the plate . I’ve done my research cause of problems with using oil is Botched heat treatment on Rings . Taking deep breaths to deal with them professionally.
 

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Yes oil consumption test top end clean 10000 miles first visit I’m sitting here waiting for the results of my 6 th visit @16000 miles . They need to step up to the plate . I’ve done my research cause of problems with using oil is Botched heat treatment on Rings . Taking deep breaths to deal with them professionally.
Especially for the the last 11 years they have spent "by their own admission" 4 to 5 BILLION $$ for engine repairs because their head is up their ars. Almost all metallurgy from the world's largest steel company, no less. They should have this down to a science replacing engines. Oh wait, they can't do science, since they can't seem to get the metallurgy correct after 11 years of metallurgy problems that span a large part of their engines.

What gets me is they know EXACTLY whats wrong, what the symptoms are, and yet the buyers have to go through the endless song and dance, when clearly when your drinking oil like the people who come in. It should not take 6 visits to figure out it needs an engine.
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.

My Kona went in 2 days ago with a noise, they found low on oil and today said it’s worse, not safe to drive. So just waiting for Corporate to approve it for the new engine. But there are no loaners at all and have to wait on corporate to approve and they get a rental. But I am calling my insurance to see about getting a reduced rate while it’s in the shop.
 

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My 2020 kona with 11500 miles started clicking, went to dealership had me do an oil consumption test then at 13000 they changed the engine. Now not even 200 miles on the new engine and it's starting to click again! I bought it brand spanking new and only have the dealership do oil changes. Anyone else have to replace their engine due to "manufacture" defect causing the pistons to fail, not once, but likely twice? I foresee kona class action law suits in the future. This is ridiculous.
Did you actually get a "new engine" or Remanufactured / Small Block ? I have 13,500 on my 2020 Kona. I am getting a Small Block but 20 miles away another person same issues with her 2020 Kona is getting Remanufactured. Did you file a claim through corporate as well? I am now waiting for my Small Block to come in and in a loaner, I feel I am being treated well. My concern is does my car lose value because of the issue and having part of the engine replaced. Now waiting to hear back from my car sales person who actually has been following up on the progress. The person at the other dealership retained lawyer is filing a claim under the Lemon Law for California.
 
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