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Well, it will be expensive. Also, keep in mind this is a concept for the Kona 2.0 for SEMA. https://www.vaccar.co/clubkona.html . Plus Arron Vaccar is a designer and not much else. You can read about his history here; https://www.aaronvaccar.com/history. I do appreciate the enthusiasm just don't expect to much to transpire out of this.

The first hurdle will be the ECU. The 2.0 ECU doesn't have the software or hardware capability to be altered for the use with turbo setup. An appropriate tune will also be needed after this hurdle is reached. Then there are allot of other internal and external changes that will have to be made to make the concept a viable and reliable package.

I've seen allot of SEMA concepts never make it to either a prototype or production phase. It's a nice idea but if it ever make it to the production stage, it will be cost prohibitive. Most of these companies have focused on the 1.6T Gamma engine in the Veloster but have done very little for anything else. 2017 brought out 5 tuners that focused on Hyundai at SEMA and none of them have made it to a production level for resale to the public.

Boostec is their supplier and they sell on eBay direct and mainly tuner parts. I'm a bit skeptical of a company who sells mainly on eBay and is very limited in actual vehicle specific kits. That I am aware of, they have only one complete kit for the Elantra. No tune available or talk of one either. If you're going to offer a turbo package for resale, you also need to have a specific tune available for that application. There isn't any.

It's nice to see the interest but I'll take a wait and see approach. I'd suggest not getting your hopes up to much for anything to really come of it for resale to the public.

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Can’t see it being a big hit.. Too many hurdles to overcome technically, which will make it cost prohibitive most likely..
and there is already a turbo version.. which will keep the aftermarket from spending much on developing a turbo for this car...
that and the turbo version already out is detuned .. so room to play there for more power...
 

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While its great to see more aftermarket support for the Kona, I'm inclined to agree that going with bolt on turbo is going to be both expensive and complicated. If you didn't opt for the turbo model from the get go, I'm not sure if this will be worth the investment.
 

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Can’t see it being a big hit.. Too many hurdles to overcome technically, which will make it cost prohibitive most likely..
and there is already a turbo version.. which will keep the aftermarket from spending much on developing a turbo for this car...
that and the turbo version already out is detuned .. so room to play there for more power...

Its doable, there are many turbo kits that work great, but $$$$ and no warranty on the engine and drivetrain the minute they open the hood. They would come out a head by selling theirs and buying a OEM turbo model.
 

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I am 72 so the younger drivers will disagree on this, and it's fine. In another post I commented about our 500 mile trip in treacherous mountain roads in Northern California. Our Limited FWD did well, but my overall impresssion was that the engine overpowers the chassis/suspension - not the brakes, though.
We have a 2.0 liter turbo in our Santa Fe Sport, it has 265 horsepower. I thought about this engine in a smaller car like a Kona, and I believe it would be a dangerous combination, the same way that a Kawasaki Ninja with 150 horsepower can get deadly in a motorcycle.
The point is, a smaller, lighter car with that strong an engine needs enormous discipline from the driver to avoid major disasters.
 

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Agreed, most aren't disciplined or experienced enough. It takes understanding of how the vehicle will react to given inputs from chassis, suspension, and power input in a varied environment. If you're not driving on a track to simulate those conditions, you have no idea how the vehicle will react to given inputs.

300 whp is nothing if it's combined with the appropriate engineering and tuning but without it, it can spell major problems for the owner operator. The same with tuners; there are a few good ones and allot of poor ones.

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The point is, a smaller, lighter car with that strong an engine needs enormous discipline from the driver to avoid major disasters.
If you add more power, you need to address the rest of the car ... suspension, tires, brakes .... etc.
Overall balance and synergy is key..

The moral of the story .... If you want a fast car, buy a fast car ...
 

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Wow how much power do you need?In New Zealand speed limits are strictly enforced. I know in some places you get away with speeding but not here . I travel a lot in the area I live and see 2 to 3 traffic police a day all in unexpected places. I may keep my Kona for a while . I have the base model and find the acceleration perfectly acceptable. It pushes me back in the seat if I stab the pedal and will break all speed limits in this country.
 

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Wow how much power do you need?In New Zealand speed limits are strictly enforced. I know in some places you get away with speeding but not here . I travel a lot in the area I live and see 2 to 3 traffic police a day all in unexpected places. I may keep my Kona for a while . I have the base model and find the acceleration perfectly acceptable. It pushes me back in the seat if I stab the pedal and will break all speed limits in this country.
We will get tagged here too, but you need to have your fun on exit ramps and on ramps, industrial areas at night here and there where the traffic is reduced. Some cops will give you a break and warn you if they can sense you are over accelerating in a corner and don't go nuts-o on speed, some won't. You learn where they hang out, but you are open for a ticket anywhere in the States too. You just are not a car guy, so you don't understand this happen everywhere, even in your country. Just like I am not an opera guy and can't understand spending any money going to a concert, even though I highly respect their skill.

2 weeks ago I went fast around a sweeping off camber corner and right at the apex there was a cop driving his marked SUV. I thought ....here we go, my first pull over. I followed through with the same speed so not to look guilty with over braking. If I would of had my Kona's OEM springs I would of had some good body roll, but with the Eibach's it is reduced. I would be willing to bet that I would of been pulled over if by Kona was in full body roll. He did not turn around and I was at or a hair above the post road speed, of 30 to 35mph 48 kphto 56kph for you, but the corner "suggested speed" sign was 15mph or 24 kph. I would of said I was going the speed limit for this road.

That is way I think I will keep my stock exhaust because a louder exhaust shines a light on you from anyone around you. The stock exhaust is so quiet, and I guess I will give up the 2-3 hp a cat back system would give you, to be more sound stealth.





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Plus, I can see more police presents and "control issues" seeing you guys are more socialist, even though I live in the socialist state of Minnesota.
 

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Wow how much power do you need?In New Zealand speed limits are strictly enforced. I know in some places you get away with speeding but not here . I travel a lot in the area I live and see 2 to 3 traffic police a day all in unexpected places. I may keep my Kona for a while . I have the base model and find the acceleration perfectly acceptable. It pushes me back in the seat if I stab the pedal and will break all speed limits in this country.
I Always need more power !! it’s better to have more than you need ... You don’t have to use it , but it’s there just
In case.. I have lots of opportunities to accelerate, on-ramps and darting off the line to switch lanes..
I don’t abuse it too much... but that’s why I got the 1.6T So I can play some and still get the mileage
Of the larger NA engine..
I got rid of a much more powerful car that I could never utilize except on a track...

It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow...
 

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It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow...Boy ain't this the truth! However, I understand well about the the cops in New Zealand and Australia.

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